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Preliminary Candidate Match Applicant Profile

  • How did you decide on your specialty?
  • How did you prepare yourself for application to your chosen specialty?
  • Who wrote your letters of recommendation for your application?
  • Which programs did you apply to and why?
  • What kinds of questions did programs tend to ask you?
  • What would you have done differently in applying?
  • What was the most difficult part of the application process?
  • What should I look for on my interview and tour day?
  • What questions should I ask of residents, faculty, and program directors?
  • How did you form your rank list?
  • What advice can you give seniors applying in your specialty?

How did you decide on your specialty?

I had a difficult time deciding. When I first entered medical school, I thought I would do primary care because that's all I really knew about. As I entered my 3rd year, I thought a lot about emergency medicine. I thought it sounded exciting being the 1st to make a diagnosis. I also thought I would like shift work and the flexibility. However, during my emergency medicine sub-internship, I disliked the pace of constantly seeing one patient after another and I didn't like the night shifts. Overall, it was just not right for me. I started to look into alternative fields and on the web I read about occupational medicine and environmental health. I did a rotation with the residency director at UCLA and I really enjoyed it. There is a lot of diversity in terms of how you want to direct your career.

How did you prepare yourself for application to your chosen specialty?

For this field, it's not very competitive. Basically, I did a rotation in it and also worked on a small research project. Through both of these, I was able to get to know the residency director. I also read a textbook about the field. Generally, the residencies would prefer if you have completed another residency 1st such as internal medicine or family practice. But right now I think there are enough open spots that you can get in with just a preliminary year. In terms of applying for a preliminary year, it's important to do well on your 3rd year medicine clerkship, since you must have a chairman's letter. Programs want to make sure that you'll be a good intern for a year.

Who wrote your letters of recommendation for your application?

You can only apply a year in advance to occupational medicine and environmental health, so I won't be applying until August. However for the preliminary medicine year, I got a letter from the UCLA internal medicine chairman, another from my Doctoring 3 preceptor, and another from an emergency medicine attending. You're required to have 3 and one has to be from the internal medicine chairman. I think for the other letters you should think about where you want to go. For example, I thought I wanted to go to the Olive View-Sepulveda program, and my preceptor worked there, so I got a letter from him. But overall, get letters from someone who knows you and can write you a strong letter. The field that they're in is not that important to most preliminary programs.

Which programs did you apply to and why?

I applied to 18 programs which is a lot. I did this because I was pretty sure I wanted to leave California for a year. I wanted to go somewhere in the west, so I applied to Virginia Mason in Seattle, St. Vincent's in Portland, University of Utah in Salt Lake City, St. Joseph's in Colorado, Good Samaritan and St. Joseph's in Phoenix, Stanford and Santa Clara Valley in Northern CA, as well as Olive View-Sepulveda, West LA VA, Cedars-Sinai, Santa Barbara Cottage, UCSD, Mercy, and White Memorial in Southern CA. I applied mostly to community programs over academic programs because they are generally less rigorous.

What kinds of questions did programs tend to ask you?

They all want to know what you're going into and why. They want to know what you want out of a preliminary year and how you chose their program. If you are coming from California and you are at a program in a different state, it is really important to stress that you really want to come there (if you really are interested in their program). Most programs seem to have a hard time believing medical students will leave California. Other questions I was asked: what was your favorite rotation and why, what was the most difficult situation encountered during a rotation, where I saw myself in 10 years, what are your strengths and weaknesses. Most of the interviews had very few questions. Mostly they want you to ask them questions.

What would you have done differently in applying?

I would not have applied to any academic programs, because they usually are more rigorous. I don't think my resume was strong enough anyway, because I didn't get interviews from some of them. I like the more laid-back style that community programs tend to have.

What was the most difficult part of the application process?

It was really difficult to know what programs to apply to because I didn't know a lot about them. My advisor only knew about the Southern California programs, and other people in the SAO as well seemed to only have limited information. So applying to out of state programs was based on visiting their web site and guessing. I usually looked to see how many spots were available and I also e-mailed the programs to see if what kind of candidates they would accept. For example, the University of New Mexico would only take people going into specialties at their hospital. I also looked at the call schedules and average number of hours worked per week. But you really have to visit the program and talk to the residents to see what they're like. However, most of the programs are generally the same. You'll have 7-8 months of wards, 1-2 months of ICU, I month of ER, 2 months of electives, and I month of vacation. One difference is that some programs will have preliminary interns do a ½ day per week of clinic and some won't. Salaries are pretty much the same.

What should I look for on my interview and tour day?

I would ask about the call schedule and talk to a preliminary intern. They were the best source of information and you can usually tell how satisfied they are. They all take you on a tour of the facilities. Have someone show you the computer system to see how user-friendly it is. Call rooms were not that important to me, since I'm only there for a year. You can also look for subtleties such as if the program makes an effort to let you meet different residents, if the interview day is well-organized, if the staff is friendly, etc. To me this things reflect how happy people are there and how busy they are.

What questions should I ask of residents, faculty, and program directors?

a) What do you look for in a preliminary candidate?
b) What is the patient population?
c) What electives are available?
d) How are preliminary interns treated compared to categorical interns?
e) How are the ancillary services?
f) Who are the attendings? How are you taught?

How did you form your rank list?

For me (and I think for most preliminary candidates), location and difficulty of the program were the 2 most important criteria. It's only one year, and most of the programs are generally the same in terms of the schedule over the year. I had to decide if I wanted to stay in California or not. Once I decided I wanted to leave, I chose based on the 2 criteria above. I think you should just rank the programs you like the best and not worry too much about what the program's national rank is or other things like that. I think you just end up confusing yourself.

What other advice can you give seniors applying in your specialty?

Remember that categorical and preliminary spots at the same program can be very different in terms of how difficult they are to get. For example, one program may fall in the middle of the pack for internal medicine, but it may have an easy intern year, so it will be very popular for preliminary candidates. I think you should think about what type of program you want to be at (academic, community, VA) and then just decide what are the basic criteria that would make you happy for one year. Also, it's easy to get burnt out towards the end of the interview trail, but try not to blow off interviews. For me, the last program that I visited was the one I liked best. I was sick of interviewing and almost didn't go but I'm glad I did.

 

 

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